The True Face Of The Coproxamol Ban

[russmclean]

Just a short note to show the clip.....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=TozBgI5LyGc

This is entitled "Seroxat - The Liars" and features BBC Panorama expose video of the Medical Health Regulator, the ex-doctor, Alasdair Breckenridge. Whilst the video is about Seroxat, it puts a face, and a rather shifty uncomfortable interview from the "Regulator" that was also at the helm of this rudderless ship when he failed in his duty of care with the coproxamol ban.

This is the face of the man who has caused us all so much pain.

Forgive me for being personal, but he has cost me a job I love, which, over ten years (with coproxamol) got me off of disability benefit, and being able to work in a way that created 71 jobs.

Regards,

Russ.

[freeman]

[glow=red,2,300][/glow]Hi im new here, i am on D4D forums
my name as pill popper aka Nigel.
Its great to see this forum on co proxamol, up and running, cheers Mike
i am writing stuff about co proxamol on my blog site, so would it be ok if i could submit my link or url, Mike/Russ

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mindlightandsoul.blogspot.com

[Mike Smith]

Nigel, aka PP - Welcome to the forums. You can post whatever links you like as long as they dont send people to

• Sites where they can buy drugs illegally or without prescriptions
  
• Sites advocating any kind of illegal activity
  
• Ebay ( I HATE ebay!!)
  

- and of course anything that is just nasty

Apart from that - be my guest.......

[freeman]

Cheers Mike thanks.

[freeman]

Oh by the way i tried to post a reply on the nasty email issue to give you some support but there is no reply icon on that page?

[freeman]

www.mindlightandsoul.com/

[june]

Hi Russ, I've found you at last ! Hope you got my D4D comments for you. Did you find the Prof. Keith Hawton reports you wanted ? As I'm sure you know, he's a psychiatrist @ Univ. of Oxford,Warneford Hosp, Headington,Oxford. - Director of the Centre for Suicide Research, actually. I'm very tempted to write a polite & non-threatening letter to him to ask him why he's so anti- coproxamol, apart from it's potential (like most drugs !) suicide effect. I'll let you know if I have the energy & time ! June

[russmclean]

Hi June,

Thankyou for the link to this Hawton man. I didn't know about him. A very nice lady by the name of Pam Taylor at Warnford Hospital/Oxford University Dept., emailed the report to me.

At first read through it looked the business. But then glaring holes appeared. A secondary school "A" level student could have done better, and this man is supposed to be a professor. Who pays him for this?

Worse, when you study the credits at the bottom he seems to be one of the people that set the coproxamol ban ball rolling by presenting to the MHRA in the first place.

I then tried to speak with his boss Professor Guy Goodwin, but he is off on holiday, so ended up with the media department and they referred me to the British Medical Journal. Not too happy with them. A rather officious person was somewhat unhelpful. Quoting the report's validity by the apparent fact a peer group had reviewed and passed it fit for purpose and publication in the BMJ.

When I asked about the terms of reference and who set them, no one could answer.

When I asked why any proper researcher exercising the minimal of due diligence (and peer reviewer) would see the controversy over this disaster leaving thousands to die in untreated pain I was met with a blank response. Even a primary school student could find the controversy on the internet. Hawton and his team have made an unforgiveable mess of this. Even if they are motivated for decent reasons.

I then listed omissions from Hawton's work such as:-

1. There being NO balance. Hawton et al have IGNORED the MHRA website pdf file listing hundreds of complaints from people left to live and die in untreated pain by the cack handed MHRA coproxamol ban. Not just letters from Jo and June Public, but MP's, Doctors, Senior Surgeons, Directors of Pain Management Clinics, Heads of substantial pain management charities such as Arthritis Care pleading for the MHRA to repair the "Named Patient" problem as they all have patients in untreated or undertreated pain.

2. Hawton, et al, have IGNORED the FACT that there have been THREE UK Parliamentary debates dedicated to the mess that the MHRA have made of the coproxamol ban. The MHRA have ignored all three Soverign UK Parliamentary Debates and left tens of thousands of patients to live and/or die in unmanaged pain. FACT.

3. Hawton, et al, have IGNORED the damage that has been done to patients by two years experiment of alternate analgesia to coproxamol, such as NSAID. This may not seem relevant, but I am exhibit "A". NSAID has done harm to me, and this is in breach of the doctors sacred Hippocratic Oath. Doctors have been struck off for this sort of thing.

4. Hawton, et al IGNORED the FACT that morphine prescriptions have gone up an extra-ordinary 40% (GP's newspaper Pulse Today obtained this data under Freedom of Information from the MHRA) since the coproxamol ban. He failed to mention his buddies at the MHRA falsely reasured patients that paracetamol was just as good as coproxamol. Morphine is much more dangerous than coproxamol, yet that, by deductive logic, shows the MHRA equate paracetamol to morphine.

5. Hawton, et al would appear to have empirically misrepresented the fact that coproxamol suicides have just gone down since the coproxamol ban. Yes they have, but according to Hansard they are now going back up.

6. Hawton, et al neglected to make any reference to those contemplating, attempting, or actually committing suicide through inadequate pain management following the incompetently handled ban on coproxamol, where all alternate analgesia is either too strong, too weak or with intolerable side effects. By implication and association he and his colleagues are complicit in the whole MHRA mess. He certainly fails to mention any research, for example, into the Dignitas Clinic where the MHRA must surely be on commission (it costs about £7,000 to commit assisted suicide there) for the MHRA helping send people out of their minds with unmedicated unbearable pain that they go on to commit suicide BECAUSE of the wretched mishandled MHRA coproxamol ban which Hawton would appear to endorse with his bias report.

These are just six holes in Hawton's report.

If Hawton were an "A" level student he would have failed his exam with this report.

I am that bl**dy angry with this report, I am off to the GMC website to see if this Hawton man is a registered GP. If he is, I shall be putting in a similar complaint to that which I submitted to the GMC Fitness To Practise Panel at the GMC in Autumn last year about Medical Health Regulator Dr Breckenridge. It is now a fact that for whatever reason Breckenridge withdrew his GMC registration in February this year and is now an ex-doctor. It is unfortunate that a public Fitness To Practise Panel did not get to debate, in the open, the reasons behind the initial complaint.

Whatever else this coproxamol debate is, it is a minefield. Evidently Hawton, et al, are happy to play at being researchers with a football across this field. Seemingly without a clue, or dare I say care about the sheer scale of pain and suffering this knee jerk coproxamol ban has had on many of the 1,700,000 patients.

Methinks, the above analogy has just had Hawton's report hit one of those mines, and this man shall have a lot of explaining to do.

Yes we all agree with him, something should be done about the appalling accidental and deliberate overdoses of coproxamol. But by MHRA and Hawton logic, if an ambulance crashes, then this group of ivory tower academics would say ambulances are all too dangerous and ban the whole UK fleet.

The reputation of Oxford University and the BMJ will be indelibly tarnished if and when manslaughter inquiries and possible charges are brought against the MHRA if they do not seek a supplementary report to balance the misleading effort by Hawton and his colleagues. For the avoidance of doubt, we now have two near misses, and the research on behalf of those left without any pain medication into MHRA caused suicide has not yet been rolled out on a nationwide basis to HM Coroners and Procurators Fiscal yet. I now have little doubt that there will be deaths directly attributable to the MHRA failed coproxamol policy. As indicated in our group view: IT ONLY TAKES ONE. For the uninitiated, it only takes one coproxamol banned, analgesia absent, pain wracked suicide with a culpability trail leading to the MHRA for the Metropolitan Police to receive a formal complaint, and asked to investigate.

Regards,

Russ McLean

campaigncoprox at live dot com

(email requires link up to avoid internet spam hoovers)

[june]

Hi Russ, I'm afraid I've only just read your July 31/09 message. I'm disadvantantaged by my lack of computer skills, can't find my way round this site ! I spend hours going round in circles ! Have a look on the internet for a contact link ( I haven't found) to Prof Whorwell, Gastroenterologist @ Withington Hosp. Manchester, who spoke to me with contempt re. the MRHA's coprox withdrawal & its proven value in pain relief for GI problem sufferers PLUS his scepticism re. the David Kelly 'suicide'. He MAY be able to give you support, as he does have the courage of his convictions in medical fields despite fierce opposition from the 'old guard' medical profession. Regards, June

[barbara]

Go and comment about Coprox at the foot of this article, I have, we need to be heard.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1205149/GPs-handing-antidepressants-linked-birth-defects.html

[barbara]

On the BBC News site, today, there is a place to comment if you have been refused medication on the NHS.
Here's a chance to state the Coproxomol case.

[barbara]

www.telegraph.co.uk/health/7271547/Four-fold-increase-in-prescriptions-for-the-strongest-painkillers.html?state=target

Here is a national newspaper today talking about pain pills. A good opportunity to put a view about coproxomol